WFRP 3e? Really? Oh dear.
There’s been a bunch of rumours around RPG.net and the like recently that a third edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay might be happening. This was fuelled by comments on the official Fantasy Flight Games message boards and the like and by the fact that FFG have released bugger all WFRP books since they got the license, concentrating instead on Dark Heresy. All that has been released is a) the Career Compendium, a classic end of line product (see the Spell and Magic Item Compendiums Wizards released just before announcing D&D 4e); b) Shades of Empire, a organisations source book and c) The Thousand Thrones a big adventure. My understanding is that at least the latter two of these were basically written before FFG took the license as well. Other than that, they’ve made the out of print 2e books available as PDFs. No other action.
Then today I see that The Altdorf Correspondent blog has a post linking to Black Library Author Graham McNeil’s blog. Here’s the relevant section:
WFRP 3
A coupe of weeks ago, our regular roleplaying group was privileged enough to playtest 3rd Edition Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. The guys from Fantasy Flight Games were over at Games Workshop HQ, and Jay Little very kindly did a show and tell for us over at Alessio Cavatore’s house, where we saw how much the game has changed from its previous incarnation. Our gaming group has been going for some time and we were all interested to see what was new with WFRP, since we’d playtested the previous edition also. It was in interesting evening, and the game was very different to anything I’ve played before, with a lot of table space taken up by character sheets, action and ability cards, dice etc. It felt like a strange hybrid of board game and roleplaying game at first, but once the notions of the new mechanics took hold, it felt very natural. Likewise, the new dice pool system felt odd at first, but once we’d rolled a few dice it immediately became very intuitive, which is surely the holy grail of any roleplaying system.By the time we’d despatched the goblins and rescued the coachman, we didn’t have much time left to play out the more interpersonal encounters of the intro game, but we’d already gotten our heads around the system and were already looking to develop our characters – which is a good sign in any playtest. Overall, I really liked the changes to the game, and it makes a nice change from sitting with my Players Handbook and a grubby character sheet. I’m liking what Jay has done with the game, and there’s a clear desire to make it fit properly with the Warhammer World, where a lot of the previous edition’s books, with the best will in the world, just didn’t.
Oh dear. Ability cards? Fitting more into the Warhammer World?
I’m a traditionalist in these things, by and large. I like my RPGs to be RPGS – dice, books, character sheets and some minis (sometimes). And I like the WFRP version of the Old World, not the current battlegame version. So this doesn’t appeal.
This is a watch this space, but I’m glad currently I’ve got my WFRP 2e and 1e books…
9 Comments to WFRP 3e? Really? Oh dear.
That sounds pretty bad. It’s seems FFG is totally out of its mind. And I don’t know what they want to accomplish by turning WFRP into a second D&D 4E. It’s a shame, WFRP was one of my favorite RPGs. *sigh*
well, I’ll be the first to say it. Fuck yea! I also enjoyed wfrp, but this sounds very exciting. If its a combo of dnd4e and wfrp, but with dice pools I’m all in.
For those who doubt 4th ed. is selling well I think this nails it down pretty well. When someone is copying your concept it’s usually not because it’s a business failure.
I have my 1st ed WHFRP GW rulebook. Works just fine, and has naked dwarves and all.
July 17, 2009
If true it just means I have more time available for HackMaster
July 28, 2009
Huh, while it is hard to argue the business sense of this since if DnD 4e is really doing well then there is no reason for them not to cash in on free money….. still a bloody shame though lobotomizing the system and removing any character deep.
August 13, 2009
[...] when I first heard about the 3rd edition Fantasy Flight Games is about to release, I thought it was a hoax. But alas it was not. Graham [...]
August 18, 2009
[...] new edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay was announced at Gen Con this week, as we expected it would be. It’s looking pretty different. There’s a summary of the known facts here, but in [...]
December 9, 2009
I have played WFRP since the first edition. This is NOT WFRP. This IS crap. Making money is not the measure of a good game folks. Lots of simple people like shiny colorful objects. I am just sad that the real WFRP will no longer be supported. I sad day indeed.
December 20, 2009
Given I haven’t played it I’m not going to say what it is or isn’t.
July 6, 2009